Lioness ([info]elisem) wrote,
@ 2007-09-06 09:40:00
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ArtLog: so today I wound up explaining the Artists' Challenge program again
...and this is what I said. It came out OK, so I thought I might paste it here for future reference.

The Artists' Challenge program is a thing I do where, when people meet a piece of mine and it sparks some art in them, we work out a deal. For writers, these days it usually goes like this:

It starts with somebody seeing a piece of mine that inspired them. If I can see that they are really sparked about something, and that it's making them want to write, then if I have the leeway in the exchequery and cashflow, I will make an Artists' Challenge agreement with them. They usually make a small downpayment, and the piece goes home with them right then. They write whatever it is they're moved to write, and send me a copy of it. They (of course!) retain copyright, and usually they sell the piece and then I get to admire it in print too, as well as having read it early and been a part of the inspiration. Then they pay me for the piece over time, from money they get from their writing. I generally strongly prefer that they don't pay me more than 10% of any given check they receive, though people can trump that if they really want to. How long it takes doesn't matter to me, once I accept an Artists' Challenge agreement. Also, sometimes -- OK, fairly often -- we invent a different price that works better, or figure some cool barter thing, or something. (Photographer Heather Corinna is going to be photographing people in their Elisian necklaces at the reception at Fourth Street, for example. I don't know if you know her work, but she did a gorgeous author photo of Sarah Monette.)

People available for references include:

Sarah Monette, whose Spectrum Award-winning story "Three Letters from the Queen of Elfland" was a necklace story, and who has done a great number of others. (I have more than forty thousand words of Artists' Challenge stuff from Sarah alone! This delights me.)

Elizabeth Bear, who has a number of pieces.

Emma Bull, whose story in the second Firebirds anthology, "What Used To Be Good Still Is," is a necklace story.

Jo Walton, who doesn't exactly do Artists' Challenge pieces, but who gets a new necklace for every book, and who has worked my table and been instrumental in setting up Artists' Challenges for people who she meets at my table. (Jo's wonderful at spotting people who are inspired and will work at it. Dunno if you know her, but she's just a joy all around, too.)

There are many others, but those are the easiest to find, I think. Please feel free to ask any of them about it, and tell 'em I told you to, OK? Bear in mind, though, that arrangements for everybody are tailored just to them, so the money thing and the trade thing varies a lot.

There. Might be more than you wanted to know, but hey. ;-) I don't do a ton of these, but I do enough to keep going, and it really pleases me to do them. Plus, hey, I can't afford my own work, and neither can most working artists, so it makes me glad to get stuff to people who enjoy it and who are making their own art. It's inextricably linked with the joy of making things, for me.

E,
who is now going to cut and paste this into LJ, since it's a good explanation of the Artists' Challenge program, and it's been a while since I talked about it there.


For the record, Heather is photographing at the reception I'm throwing at Fourth Street because she is in love with the necklace named "My Life with the Mermaids, Chapter Seven: Glacial Mermaids and Tropical Mermaids", which now lives with her.


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[info]dichroic
2007-09-06 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Some of us have a little disposable income but limited talent. I keep idly toying with the idea of scholarships. Two possibilities might be money toward an Artist's Challenge piece for a previously unpublished writer, or money enough for six or 12 upgrades from Basic to Big Magpie PotMo, to be applied to a random Basic subscriber each month. On one hand, this could allow you to do stuff you want to do when cashflow doesn't cooperate. On the other hand, accounting and tracking (especially with the BotMo idea) might be more trouble than it's worth. What do you think?

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[info]elisem
2007-09-06 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Ooooh! We must talk, because this is very interesting to me. I believe it may be of interest to others, too. (She says, understating wildly.)

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[info]dichroic
2007-09-06 04:03 pm UTC (link)
It just seems like an interesting way to support the arts (two arts at a time, in the case of Artist's Challenge pieces). Maybe make it not all of the cost of a piece, but enough to make it affordable (I think people value most what they pay for, but it does suck if they just *can't* pay for something they really love and would work hard for). If other people are interested in donating, that would be even better because then the donor could be anonymous. I'd welcome othe ideas for how this could work.

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[info]elisem
2007-09-08 11:58 am UTC (link)
In the past, I have had a number of wonderful people who know I do sliding scale when I can, and there were two of them who fairly regularly bought $50 pieces and gave me $100 for them, saying when I protested, "No, no, I know what you're going to do with the extra; you're going to give somebody some hundred dollar thing for fifty bucks." And they were right, so I stopped squawking and accepted their (incredibly generous! humblingly so!) monetary trust, and went and did exactly that.

I shall have to confer with Jeannie-who-likes-spreadsheets, and once we know how this can work, I will get back to you, and then figure out a way to 'splain it here so other people can play. I like the idea very much, and also I agree with you about the important distinction between affordable and free, which is something that's figured into the sliding scale stuff in the past too.

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[info]dichroic
2007-09-08 01:28 pm UTC (link)
Well, the knowing what you will do with it is an important point. But you have a pretty stellar record for good discretion in matching people and pieces who belong together.

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[info]ewtikins
2007-09-06 03:13 pm UTC (link)
This is VERY cool.

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[info]truepenny
2007-09-06 04:26 pm UTC (link)
If you want a sort of total package thing you can point people at, "Letter from a Teddy Bear on Veterans' Day" is online here in necklace form (with the teddy bear bead plainly visible, like we did it on purpose and everything) and here in story form.

Also, some stats: eight of my Artist Challenge stories have been published, with two more in press. Of those eight, "Three Letters from the Queen of Elfland," aside from winning the Spectrum Award for short fiction in 2003 and being reprinted in a Czech anthology last year, is being reprinted twice this year, in So Fey: Queer Fairy Fictions and The Best of Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wristlet; "Draco campestris" got chosen for Best American Fantasy; and "Letter from a Teddy Bear on Veterans' Day" is being reprinted in Best New Fantasy 2.

In other words, it works!

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[info]aszanoni
2007-09-06 09:53 pm UTC (link)
And that's a GORGEOUS picture of you that Elise mentions up there. It really is.

Elise, I love that you have a reception planned for Fourth Street. With beautiful Stuff that you made. You are the very coolest. -admiration-

I agree that this works. I read Emma's story "What Used To Be Good Still Is," and it made me cry. Wow. Elise is the muse of jewelry which inspires.

- Chica

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[info]elisem
2007-09-08 12:00 pm UTC (link)
I always feel a bit like a grandmother when somebody's challenge story is published. Like, I didn't do the work to make that story, but I'm somehow related, and proud as all get out of what the person has produced. (Also, as soon as it's published, I carry copies of it around and wave them at friends and amiable strangers and anybody that will hold still long enough.)

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[info]elisem
2007-09-08 12:00 pm UTC (link)
And the whole thing started with poets, you know. Have I told that story here?

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[info]aszanoni
2007-09-09 10:46 pm UTC (link)
I don't know whether you have, but I would love to hear it.

Being somehow related is Very Cool.

- Chica

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